Modul Development "create a special Place"...?

[mr-fan]

In the last weeks/months.... there some needs appeared in the forum that i want to pick up to a little poll!

This poll maybe can grip out the opinion of the WebsiteBaker - Users/Community....

First i want put some threats here to read - why this is possibly a need for WB:

http://www.websitebaker2.org/forum/index.php/topic,13133.msg79986.html#msg79986

THIS is very first good step for a structured and modern way of baking modules - BUT the problems is! It's only one man (and everyone of us can understand that SUCH a thing is not acceptable that only one work this out)
AND it's in the forum again where someone pick it up - and others don't (like this poll -  )

http://www.websitebaker2.org/forum/index.php/topic,13567.msg83133.html#msg83133

SUCH controversy is in such lonly forum-threats - BUT this should be goes to all modul-developpers/coders to grant a welldone process for all new and upcomming moduls!


-There are so much real good coders here in the WB Forum - and all want the same - they want make good work and they've fun to make such moduls for her needs and a little bit for websitebaker
(i hope the main-time!!)

-Why should the not get there own plattform/forumboard/svn......i don't know this i'am to clueless for the right solution (but i want demonstrate the needs that several voices whisper in a big and a little bit     confusing forum)

only minds presented by a noob - but maybe helpfull......?

regards martin

[mr-fan]

oh not so much feedback 

- i know now that this is in fact no issue -

all coders are happy and can work perfectly - the make her own things stack it into the forum and be lucky....


come on this note chould be a sign for a next step to get forward?

regards martin

[BlackTiger]

Hi Martin,

I cannot find a matching answer in your poll.

I think a central version control system for the enhancements of WB would be a good idea - especially for the code without author/maintainer.

I don't see the need of a different place (forum) to communicate. This can be done right here. Otherwise many things will be discussed twice.

regards
Michael

[Stefek]

Dear Michael,
please could you explain this point more (or translate into german).
I fear my english is not good enough to understand it and I would like to.

I think a central version control system for the enhancements of WB would be a good idea - especially for the code without author/maintainer.

For me personally: I would love to contribute to a "Selection and Enhancement and Presentation Project"
1) Make a list of MOST WANTED Modules and Snippets (based on a survey)
2) Enhancement (of course coders and designers are needed for this. Also the Project Primer completion)
3) Presentation at the websitebaker.org site

I know, this is a long term objective. But it would be doable.
I think everyone here will agree that "Things can be changed for the better".

In the past we had "only" the addons page. Now for almost a year there is the AMASP, introduced by Erpe. I think that this is a great improvement, but the AMASP is not really good for presentation purposes. Especialy for new users.

If we really want to keep WebsiteBaker alive, we will need to make a change - as community.
And we will need to increase the number of Users (active in the community).
Sooner or later we will need to do this. Otherwise there will be not enough "point of interest" in it and ... I think you all understand the circumstances we are in then.

Kind Regards,
Stefek

[BlackTiger]

Hi Stefek,

what I was trying to say is that I would welcome a platform to manage the code of wb extensions - for example something like the project-pages with the source code and ticket system.

There are many extensions without an active author - such a central platform would make it easier to bugfix/enhance this code.

Try of a translation in german:

Ich finde eine zentrale Plattform sinnvoll, über die der Code von WB-Erweiterungen gepflegt wird. Z.B. ein System wie die Projektseiten der Kerndateien. Das würde speziell bei den Erweiterungen, deren Autor nicht mehr aktiv ist, die Pflege des Codes erleichtern.

regards
Michael

[mr-fan]

I think a central version control system for the enhancements of WB would be a good idea - especially for the code without author/maintainer.

I don't see the need of a different place (forum) to communicate. This can be done right here. Otherwise many things will be discussed twice.

ok - but the forum is for finding ideas sharing to check it with lot of feedback and testings..... but not for developping a modul!!

a possibility can be the project server - with svn's or other systems (not my special..) kweitzel told me that this was in mind sometimes ago...

i mean in short way: there is much double work on same/similar modules....

example:   once there is a form module.....ok everthing is fine
                ->then somebody make a formX and go away unfinished
                   ->then there is a formlist from the old one for display formitems in the frontend
                      ->there will be a formX2 soon but complete new  stuff with old base....
                          -> the next one need more functions and make formXYZ....and put it in the forum to share....


what happend if there is a project called like "formMOD" and here can work all together that involved in this modul...

i don't know im no programmer but is it not energy-saving and time-saving if you can put your special in the project and somebody else his special to get a better finish!?!

example: i've written about 6 PM's to some authors of modul that only make a short indication that they need more time because they have a difficult part of the modul to make...... and i suggest a other coder... to help who's handle such problems easyer...?

it was just a step to a place where especially conditions for developping are given?
but if they don't needed - let the sun shining and don't matter

regards martin

[Stefek]

Thanks Michael.

Regards,
Stefek

[mr-fan]

NEW example for wasted energy of develloping nearly the same thing......

I've the support for a section of the official .Project server for a SVN for such projects or devellopments!!!

language links / menus /structur:

here we go....

1. http://www.websitebakers.com/pages/admin/admin-tools/language-matrix.php
2. http://www.websitebakers.com/pages/code-snippets/various/language-switcher.php
3. http://www.websitebakers.com/pages/code-snippets/various/language-switcher.php
4. http://www.wdsnet.de/wb/pages/projekte.php

this is what i mean - not make a dev-group for a gallerie or such a thing.... no but for a important thing save time/energy/double coding and share knowledge/code/hint....

regards martin

[Argos]

Hey Martin, I am no coder, but you are absolutely right. There is lost of energy wasted in the curretn way. the WB community is getting bigger and bigger, and there should be some way of organizing coding centrally.

It's a bit sad that the original leading developer (Ryan) has withdrawn form the project, as sometimes you need a clear "leader" to make the first move. Now it's more difficult to organize things like this. I hope the core coders can come up with something.