another page field for titles?

[adiwillow]

Hi all, i do a large dollop of SEO contract work with WB as the main CMS (mostly installed by me). I find WB is pretty good in terms of SEO out of the box, but i often think an extra admin field would be useful in the pages.

Ie the 'menu title', is good for short concise links, and is basically a short description of th epage.
The 'page title' is very good for SEO used as a H1 tag, but it also obviously acts as the title tag of the page, and this isnt completely ideal.

There are instances where i want the title to be marginally different from the page title (h1), for various reasons,  eg a strapline, or an H2 which contains an elaboration of the theme.
Are there any mods out there to give me a quick and easy extra field? I know i could code it but i simply havent go the time at the mo...

Or, Any plans to incorporate an extra field in the pages for a future release?

[kweitzel]

If you use the "Description" Field already, then forget what I write. If you don't have a look here:

http://help.websitebaker.org/pages/en/basic-docu/working-with-wb/page-administration/change-settings.php

cheers

Klaus

[adiwillow]

yes i use the description for each page already.

Another field would really be useful for me... sometimes i want a short snappy meta title of a page just to contain the main keyterms and nothing else. I'd want the page title itself to be a slightly longer version for natural reading to visitors. at the moment this isnt possible and i think its really lacking in WB.

[Stefek]

...  I'd want the page title itself to be a slightly longer version for natural reading to visitors. at the moment this isnt possible and i think its really lacking in WB.

Of course you can do that. The title is exactly for that purpose.
The only thing you do "wrong" in your template is the application of the "page title" to your H1 Headings.
Why don't you create them via WYSIWYG?
If _really_needed_ you also can make section for thtat purpose for every singe page.

Regards,
Stefek

[adiwillow]

you're kinda misunderstanding me, and its a bit difficult to go into unless you get the concept straight away. I guess you have to do a lot of SEO work to realise why this would be so useful. Yes, there are ways round it, but they are not ideal.
Remember that i do contract work for other people. I want control of page titles and heading tags. If i use the opening sentence of the copy text for this extra field, then i lose control, as it will inevitably get changed.


There are only two editable title fields for a page in WB. Menu Title, and Page Title.

Menu title needs to be short and snappy for link text, and also for menu spacing (as you dont want too long text in a menu)
Page Title is used for , welll the head title of the page.

However, i also want a filed which i can put a setence into that says what this page is about.

In regards SEO , i want the head title to contain my main terms, and it want it to be short and concise as possible. I'd want the H1 tag to mimic these tersm (they are after all my main keyterms). But, i'd also want another heading tag (h2) etc contain a slightly elaborated version of the main page title or H1, this would contain an elaboration of my main keyterms, both for SEO and for natural reading to the visitor. I want to place this outside of the copy so that it wont intrude too much into what the client wants to have his opening sentence as.
I'd then use an H3 for the opening sentence in the copy, and also for any other important titles in the page.

So, you see, i'm missing a useable field. I could, as you say, use the copy text to include this field, but then i lose control over where it gets placed (ie it will always be at the top of the copy). and what it contains, as sure as eggs is eggs the siteowner will want to change it.

Anyway, it appears there isnt a way, and probably wont be. I'll just hard code it in.

[Stefek]

Anyway, it appears there isnt a way, and probably wont be. I'll just hard code it in.

Did you take a look at "Multiple Blocks"?
You can use them in order to do what you want.
http://help.websitebaker.org/pages/en/advanced-docu/designer-guide/content-blocks.php

All you then need to do is to specify a block "headings" in the info.php of your template.

Code:

// like this
$block[2]   = 'headings';

And in the index.php of your template you will need something like..

Code:

<body>
<div id="header">
<?php page_content(2); ?>   
</div>
<div id="menu">{your menu}</div>
<div id="content"><?php page_content(1); ?></div>
<div id="footer">{your footer}</div>
</body>

Thus you can use the BLOCK "headings" and specify your unique headlines on every single page.
For exmple with the Editor lieke this:
<h1>my unique Headline 1</h1>
<h2>my unique SubHeadline</h2>

Regards,
Stefek

[adiwillow]

thanks stefek ! i'll take a look.